Fenton Hatches Proposal to Allow Keeping Chickens
Council debates number of hens and roofing outdoor pens; Planning Commission and city attorney to review proposed ordinance.
Fenton is hatching a new ordinance that would allow chicken keeping in some residential areas of the city. Council discussed a proposed ordinance at Monday's work session, and the proposal will now go to the Planning Commission and city attorney for their input, City Manager Lynn Markland said.
Zoning Administrator Brad Hissong said he's been in business for 40 years, and it's the first time he's dealt with chickens. He and city planning consultant Carmine Avantini, with the city attorney's review, developed a proposed ordinance.
Other Michigan cities have ordinances allowing the keeping of chickens, Avantini said. Fenton's proposal would allow chicken keeping for detached single family houses, in single family residential areas. In addition, the chicken coops would be at least 25 feet from neighboring homes and 10 feet from property lines.
Most lots in Fenton are 60 feet wide and 120 feet long, said Councilman Les Bland.
In response to a resident's comment about some people not being able to keep chickens, Councilman Ben Smith said the proposed ordinance does prohibit some people from having chickens. Smith lives on a corner lot, for example, and couldn't keep chickens because they couldn't be hidden from view.
A few residents who attended the work session said they favor allowing people to keep chickens. Karen Price said she was upset when she moved to Fenton, because she couldn't take her chickens. Her favorite chicken, Reba, took naps with her on a hammock.
Price was excited to hear the city might allow chickens, and wants to be a voice of encouragement, she said. She finds chickens delightful, and she'd rather deal with chicken feces to keep her garden fertilized than dog feces on the sidewalk in front of her house.
Resident Malissa Bossardet has asked city officials to allow her to keep her chickens, on South Adelaide Street. The animals supply fresh, organic eggs for her family, Bossardet has said. In February, council asked city administration for a proposed ordinance on the keeping of chickens in certain residential areas. If the ordinance is approved, those who would like to keep chickens will need a building permit from the city, said Hissong. This will ensure people build their chicken coops from materials that blend in with the neighborhood, and not car tires and doors, for example, he said.
The number of chickens allowed, amount of distance from neighboring homes and property lines and whether to place roofs over outdoor chicken runs are key issues council discussed. The proposed ordinance suggested three chickens. In addition, it said outdoor areas for the chickens to run in must have a roof overhead, to prevent rain from washing chicken feces into the soil. This would avoid any odor issues, Hissong said.
Bossardet said she disagrees about the solid roof over a chicken run. It would be cruel not to allow the birds to have sunlight. In addition, she said chickens are very social animals and like to flock, so it would be more reasonable to allow five instead of three.
Her daughter, Olivia Bossardet, said the Tractor Supply Company in Fenton, which sells baby chicks, sells them in groups of six. That's because the chicks need others to keep them warm.
Council members differed in their opinions. Mayor Sue Osborn and Mayor Pro Tem Cheryl King each said they support allowing three chickens, with a covered run. In addition, King said the city does not allow people to sell eggs from their chickens.
Bland said he isn't in favor of covered chicken runs, so the chickens can feel the sun. He supports allowing three to five birds.
Councilwoman Patricia Lockwood said she supports three chickens, because the ordinance is new. It should be a little restricted in the beginning, she said. And she believes the runs shouldn't be covered.
Councilman Brad Jacob said he supports allowing at least five chickens. Smith said he believes three isn't enough, so four or maybe five is right. And a covered run doesn't make sense to him. Councilman Michael Piacentini said five chickens and an uncovered run are his preferences for the ordinance.
Osborn said the proposed ordinance was set up to allow residents to have chickens while making sure their neighbors, who might not want chickens, are protected.
The proposed ordinance, as originally written, says:
* A maximum of three chickens.
* No roosters.
* No slaughtering.
* A minimum of 4 square feet of coop per chicken.
* Clean, dry and odor-free.
* No coops in a side or front yard, and at least 25 feet from any neighboring home and 10 feet from any property line.
* For single family detached homes, in single family residential neighborhoods.
* Chicken owners would obtain a permit annually from the city, to ensure continued compliance. Any private restrictions, such as neighborhood association by-laws that prohibit chickens, apply.
Source: City of Fenton
Jason Alexander
9:04 am on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
What do you think the chicken ordinance should be? Three chicken limit? Five chicken limit? Roof or no roof?
C.C.
12:49 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Personally, I'm not in favor of chicken in the city, not 3, not five, not any. I'd be unhappy to look out my window or from my deck or yard and see my neighbor's chicken coop, there were chickens roaming loose in front of French laundry and Fenton Hotel this past Sunday. How are we going to address situations like that? I'm disappointed in those council members who have changed their vote in favor of the keeping of chickens.
Jane Webber
1:59 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
CC what harm can a chicken do??? dogs roam loose all the time as do children... you gonna want an ordinance against them too??? in these high price times folks need to help out their grocery bills all they can and with the FDA and big food producers poisoning us everyday we need to get closer to our food and how it's raised and proccessed.... get alife... a little chicken never harmed any one... by the way they eat bugs...
Ann Thibault
3:28 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
I kept a flock of 30 chickens, within the city limits of San Diego. I was 12 at the time.
It was a great learning experience to take care of them. I trained the roosters to put themselves to bed at dusk.Their bed was a dog crate with straw in our garage. I would let
them out in the morning after 8am. Someone made a complaint. The city sent out a rep. for the city council and an avian specialist. They tested the flock, bought a few dozen eggs and left vowing to let me know the test results. My parents received a phone call several days later. Apparently it was the healthiest darn flock he had tested in quite awhile. No further action required. I got to keep my chickens. BTW, it should be at least 5 chickens, no roof. What a great learning experience for the the Bossardet children and their friends.
Ann Thibault
gloria sanborn
5:25 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
my daughter has chickens.....she keeps everything clean....you can not hear them from her neighbors house.....but you can hear the neighbors hunting dogs that bark all the time....i would rather have chickens next door then barking dogs.....3 is not enough...councilors need to talk to other chicken raisers....3 will have a difficult time keeping warm during the winter.....my daughter has 10....they are friendly...and funny to watch....and give delicious fresh eggs.....
C.C.
6:31 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Jane, I don't have anything against chicken--I find them delicious! I'm sure like bad parents, bad dog and cat owners there will probably be bad chicken people too. As I said, I personally don't want to see chickens from MY window. We all have the opportunity to voice an opinion here on Patch, but we don't have a vote, so don't get your feathers ruffled because I stated mine.
Malissa
8:06 pm on Tuesday, May 8, 2012
Dear C.C
Just to clarify the proposed ordinance would not allow the chicken coops to be visible from the street The coop must be located in the rear of the property. The ordinance also covers how the coops shall look as well. Anyone interested in having chickens would need to turn in plans and obtain a permit from the city. Highly controlled.
As far as the roaming chickens on Sunday that was a very cruel joke and the person(s) involved lack moral judgement. Luckily we were able to catch and re-home these beautiful chickens. If you have further questions or concerns, I would be happy to answer.
Regards,
Malissa
Robert Marr
1:39 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
I have no problem with chickens, but don't let them wake me b4 9am. It won't be a pretty scene. I'm old. I'm retired. I'm cranky. I earned it. I love chicken. It tastes just like squirrel. :-)
Jr. Bonner
9:48 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
I'm an old ex-Ortonville farm boy from 1951 and I know a little bit about chickens... The main thing I know is that as soon as there is the slightest crack of dawn, the doggone things start to crow.. And those crows can be heard a half-mile away.. I'm wondering if this is a good thing for a city neighborhood.. End of story... Jr. Bonner
Jane Webber
11:24 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
If you are as you state an old farm boy then you SHOULD know chickens don't crow.... roosters do.... get your facts staight before you start blowing your horn.... the ordinance would NOT allow roosters... so much for old farm boys from Ortonville
Jr. Bonner
9:52 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
Oh wait, there's more.. I remember a conversation I once had with a police Animal Control Officer. He said that chickens, birds and other fowl carry more diseases than any other animal on the face of the earth.. So I'm wondering if it's such a good idea to take naps with a chicken... Just sayin'.
Jane Webber
11:28 am on Wednesday, May 9, 2012
and once again it depends on how clean the caretaker keeps the living quarters of the animals.... quit lumping everyone together.... the chicken from the grocery store that you all are so fond of lives in very disgusting conditions.... not like the conditions the chickens these people who want to raise a few for their own home use will be living in.